211: The Complex – James and Jules Ochoa

211: The Complex – James and Jules Ochoa

This Week’s Episode:

James Ochoa returns to the podcast this week.  James is a licensed professional counselor, author of Focus Forward: Navigating the Storms of Adult ADHD.  He is the founder and director of The Life Empowerment Center in Austin, Texas.  James offers action-focused counseling and executive coaching to help his clients discover ways to empower themselves in areas of their lives.  His passion is treating the emotional distress of ADHD, so clients can begin to build internal worlds in their imagine to manage their attention challenges.  For the past 27 years, his passion has been to transform how society understands and treats the diagnosis of ADHD.  By standing in the fire with his clients, he has helped them find ways to live powerfully in the midst of their storms while managing his own ADHD.

Jules Ochoa is 22-years-old, and currently pursuing a masters degree in psychology with the intention of working with mental illnesses, such as schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, and dissociative identity disorder.  He is self-taught in the world of podcasting and audio engineering.  He produces and co-writes the new podcast series, The Complex.

On this episode, you will hear the second episode of James’ and Jules’ podcast, The Complex.  We play “Ok, stop” and interrupt the episode to talk share some thoughts on what is happening in that particular episode.

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The Complex Podcast 

You’ll Learn:

  • [07:05] – Jules describes the podcast he has been working on with James, The Complex.
  • [08:10] – Jules talks about working on a creative project with his father.
  • [11:41] – We play “OK Stop” with on of Episode #2 of The Complex.
  • [15:58] – I share that this particular story rings true with my life experience. James explains why this story feels real.
  • [18:07] – When I first listened to this, it struck some shame triggers.  James talks about the balance they try to strike with this podcast.  Jules says that one aim of the podcast is to help people that don’t have ADHD relate to people in their lives that do have ADHD.
  • [24:18] – Jules explains why they made some creative decisions with one of the characters.
  • [26:30] – Jules shares how the audio demonstrates that someone with ADHD can jump tasks and orientations.  He says that this is one of the most confusing aspects of ADHD for other people.
  • [36:53] – We pick back up with the episode after our break.
  • [37:22] – I share that I really liked the description a character used in the episode.
  • [41:10] – I talk about a meditation practice, “Welcome to the Party.”
  • [46:16] – Jules explains why the story may take a route to help address another area of ADHD.  James lists the different types of issues and areas of disruption covered in the podcast.
  • [51:10] – James shares one of the things that was difficult with the creation and writing process of the podcast.
  • [52:51] – Jules talks about playing the role of the son of James, an ADHD expert.  James shares his feelings on that topic, too.
  • [1:02:10] – James talks about how podcasts and community can turn the tide of understanding and living with ADHD.


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